Posts Tagged ‘2015’

When I googled Siberian discs it started to lead me off to the Dropa Stones but I could not find anything concrete or really new to go into that, so I turned my attention to something more recent

Volgograd, Russia saw something interesting that I have picked on, it is a place famous for the Battle of Stalingrad and has quite a few tourist attractions. Volgograd Oblast is also the region and it is in the region that a team of Russian investigators found more than a dozen stone discs, the claim from the team said that there was tungsten inside an in 2015 they were saying that the origins for them remains a mystery.

The report came from Bloknot Volgograd, Russian news site and says that the finding was made by a group called Kosmopoisk, led by Vadim Chernobrov. Kosmopoisk are a Russian UFO and cryptozoology group and they were in the Zhirnovsky area as it is said to be known for its mystical phenomenon.

Chernobrov told the newsite that they’d found a similar similar one 2 metres in diameter at Kuzbass and some researchers are quite adamant that the tungsten is part of the indication that UFO’s and aliens exist. One of those proponents is Scott Waring of UFO Sightings Daily (via ancient-origins.net)

I’m going to say that if I had more time I think I could get lost on his site following links and different UFO subjects on there. Scott Waring concludes on the site that they might have been military drones like alien/UFO ones he had previously picked up on as present around Mars.

So I’m off on a rabbit hole again. I looked up the post on the original site, Bloknot-Volgograd.ru presented on 09.09.15 and it has pictures of the recovery of the stones with the locals watching the excavation. They say that they are sending them to Zhirnovsky Museum of local lore, to date the stones and here is where I rolled my eyes a bit.

UFOholic.com leap in on the 14th September, 2015, to proclaim the ‘initial’ geological analysis puts their age at over 1 million years old. The other claim that it has been known for mythology and folklore also comes from a statement from Chernobrov. So, so far all links back to this one group and I am still sat digging … I tend to want to see more when I start on these blogs, and if you are reading I will tend to presume that you feel the same.

I went back to Kosmopoisk, Vadim Chernobrov’s own site would not go through my firewall and caused my internet a small apoplectic fit so I backtracked again. Kosmopoisk.org is a very details site and my Russian just isn’t strong enough to navigate it, along with google translate not really helping I think someone native or more educated would be better off taking a look.

So moving on I found another article on ntd.tv from 29th August 2017, about how another disc had been discovered by a Russian mining company. This time they explain Boris Elazkov found the object 40 metres underground, it looks artificially crafted and dated at around 10,000 years old.

The article goes back to mention the Volgograd artifacts, it mentions the Kuzbass disc as well and it mentions in there how tungsten is a military grade used metal and it asks readers if perhaps they might be representations of extra-terrestrial spacecrafts and not spacecrafts themselves.

So schools of thought, UFO’s and musing all came to be discussion points, sometimes the comments on articles or these discussions one quite enlightening. On Bloknot-Volgograd there is a comment from a man, Michael, who basically states that knowledge of the local area would tell you it’s formerly an area that was the sea and they are likely just pebbles in his view.

Assaultsweb forums also had a discussion thread about it and they said that tungsten is known to be quite prolific in the area, that similar disc objects had been found in China. Another comment says that they looked like something from their local coal mines called kettle bottoms and just considered natural things.


So are they UFO’s, carvings of them or just naturally eroded stones?

Sources: UFOsightingsdaily.com, wikipedia, bloknot-volgograd.ru, kosmoposik.org, ufoholic.com, ntd.tv/inspiring, asssaultweb.net, ancient-origin.net

Picture below is actually of Yorkshire Peak District but thanks to copyright and paranoia of Article 13 I don’t think I best link the ones they used!

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So the first part is to point out that the term Red Room can mean two things, the term is a little ambiguous because of the deepweb and surface web.

A Red Room on the deepweb is usually hinted to be a live streaming site where for an expensive fee you can witness murder, rape and other atrocities that are illegal. They might also include live suicide streams and are effectively Pay Per View for things considered taboo. One which, fortunately, turned out to be a steaming pile of cows pat is the ISIS Red Room. 29th August, 2015 at midnight the side (not linked for obvious reasons, and I don’t do Tor links) said it would be streaming caught ISIS members that it planned to torture and ultimately kill them for viewing pleasure. They also added that it would be free.

So the site went down before the live tree, a video then goes up which is clearly awful and then looking on the site brought up an FBI Seizure notification. Yes, the red room that was, never was. Now on to the story I intended to go into.

The Red Room I am going to cover is about a flash animation game and urban legend, in the game two friends are talking about a pop-up that asks the computer user – Do you like Bob? – or a person’s name at any rate. The user then would try to close the pop-up but could not and it results in the death of the person at the computer.

The skeptical friend then goes off to look into this more, he ends up giving in on his quest, then continues along with his normal computer use. Inevitably the message pops up for the friend and he tries to close it, after several attempts the pop-up changes from “Do you like Jane?” etc to “Do you like red?”

The skeptical friend gets annoyed by this and keeps trying to close it down, he then finds that after a while and phrase changes it turns into “Do you like the Red Room?” With this final stage the computer becomes enveloped in names, the person’s name is on the list. The victim ends up committing suicide, coating the walls of their room in blood, hence Red Room.

I have myself played the little flash game that came with the urban legend and the character in the animation does indeed die after his name is added to the list. So… I am still here. Thank you, yes I was super brave… bazinga.

So far it’s a little light-hearted but there is a crime that has sadly been attached to the legend. 1st June, 2004 and Satomi Mitarai, 12 years old murdered a younger female classmate. Her murderer admitted to killing Mitarai over a comment that had been made on the internet. She brutally slashed at the victim and then calmly walked back to her classroom.

So what did this have to do with the Red Room? Well it is said that she had the Red Room game on her bookmark. To me that entire loose link to say it’s part of the Red Room curse is weak, she also had other links but it seems that it adds a level of loose ‘sinister’ by adding that to the tale. For me the Red Room on the deepweb and the Red Room game are different and so is the killing of an innocent student. For me I would say whilst I wrote about the game and the incident, keep them separate. One is a silly urban legend with a flash animation, the other is a tragic loss of life.

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The Odessa Catacombs, which are indeed mines not catacombs, are located in Odessa, Ukraine and attract extreme tourists, despite the number of warnings, they stretch around 2,500 kilometres and are larger and longer than those or Rome and Paris. The labyrinth of tunnels is largely unknown and unmapped, as such only a small percentage are opened via the Museum of Partisan Glory.

The tunnels materials were good for cheap construction, during World War II the tunnels served as a hiding grounds for Soviet Partisans and in 1961 the Poisk Club was created in order to explore the tunnels to map them, in keeping with the old tradition there’s really no maps by others instead clues and symbols on the walls are used to traverse them. The tunnels continued to be mined for the rich resource of limestone and so kept expanding.

The catacombs hit the news because another explorer found the remains of a body. In 2007 an urban explorer, Eugene, made a morbid discovery of a corpse of a 19-year old women. She had been at a New Years Eve party, 2005 and they had been partying there all night. At some point the woman was separated from the group and when they left the next morning they were unaware that she had not left as well. This young lady died alone, lost and probably from things like dehydration due to not having supplies and maybe even intoxicated to a high degree.

Coroners findings say that she had spent three days dehydrating before she came to the end of her life. Her name from sources around the internet suggest she was known as Masha. On other sites her name is listed as Mariya and it’s been a lot of internet trawling to try and work out more information. Eugene did not tell the police her location, nor did other explorers and she was around 5km away from the area, eventually the police located her because she was was shown in location and they managed to get her out and this is sometimes where the story lines get blurred.

She is not the only person to have been found there, there have been older mummified corpses found and the cold air and dry conditions lead to good preservation. There have also been old World War II era rifles and grenades. In 2015 two teenagers went missing but from what little I could find I worked out they were rescued.

So I couldn’t find her surname or if she is Masha or Mariya, I guess her name has been lost amongst various media reports and outlets. If you can confirm her name I would like to be able to put that to this article.

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By Полищук Денис Анатольевич – Own work, CC BY 2.5, Link

In Guerrero State, Mexico there is Iguala, and has become better known for a mystery than the peaceful rural life. In September, 2014, 43 students suddenly went missing. The students had travelled by busy from a teacher’s college in Ayotzinapa to state a protest, where the mayor’s wife was speaking. It is said that at some point the police had them at gunpoint on the edge of the city under the mayor’s orders. José Luis Abarca Velázquez then went into hiding along with his wife and the police chief, the mayor and his wife were caught a few weeks later.

On that day two students and three bystanders were killed when the police confronted the students, the shooting then strafed across nearby buildings with their bullets. Supposedly the students were handed over to a local cartel, the Guerreros Unidos. The next day the body of one of the students was dumped in the streets of Iguala, his skin had been removed from his face. The people and local government security forces have been combing the local area trying to find them. During this they have uncovered a number of mass graves and it serves as a horrific reminder about how routine murders appear to have become.

The local mountains around Iguala are locally referred to as a graveyard, and sadly the students have not been located. All around the area there are pictures, placards and posters trying to locate the missing students. The 43 missing students have come to stand for the tens of thousands of other people that have lost their lives in the ongoing Mexican drug wars. It also stands for some as a poignant statement about the lack of government accountability.

It has meant that the governor of Guerrero has been forced to resign, 80 people with over half of those being police have been arrested. There are few signs that the protests will die down any time soon, and when the police started to crack down on the harder protesters this incited further anger. The result is that Iguala now looks like the aftermath of a warzone, and vigilantes patrol the streets looking for the missing, the military and federal police are constantly circling the town’s streets.

Not far away from Iguala in Ayotzinapa the family members have turned the classrooms into communal sleeping areas, there they have a banner over the schools entrance demanding justice. There is an impromptu memorial that was photographed by a blogger that visited, it consists of 46 orange chairs, for those missing and those confirmed as dead.

Hilda Legideño Vargas is one of those with a missing son; he was on his way to Iguala and said he would text on his way home. The text and her son never came and like many she is left with a hole in her life where her son should be, or at the very least some answers…

In September, 2015 after a six month investigation led by a panel of experts assembled by Inter-American Commission on Human Rights released its results. They came to the conclusion that the claim from the Government about them being killed in a garbage dump, having been mistaken for a drug gang, was ‘scientifically impossible’ given the settings of the situation. There are some others that say, however, that this investigation had shortcomings and feel that this explanation is plausible. So the response is that the government will carry out a new investigation and take further opinions about what happened to the students the night they were presumably killed.

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By Source, Fair use, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?curid=44238005